Is anyone planning to watch this? It looks like it could be bearable, which is all I ask for. Then again, I thought Bionic Woman would be bearable, but...well....sigh...
Anyway, Summer Glau returns to TV playing essentially the same thing she was on Firefly: a combat robot that looks like a teenage girl. Wikipedia has some general info about it. Does this look worthwhile to anyone else? I figure I'll give it 2-3 episodes.
Anyway, Summer Glau returns to TV playing essentially the same thing she was on Firefly: a combat robot that looks like a teenage girl. Wikipedia has some general info about it. Does this look worthwhile to anyone else? I figure I'll give it 2-3 episodes.
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Mon, December 3, 2007 - 2:15 PMI've had the first ep on my computer for months, and haven't watched it...but I'm stoked by the possibility of it being good.
But then again, I have been watching "Bionic Woman," and enjoy it in a weird backhanded kind of way; the original series was really trashy, so I wasn't looking for "Sopranos"-quality writing with the new one. And it's actually a very girly show. The point being that you shouldn't trust my opinion about whether or not the Terminator show is any good.
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Tue, December 4, 2007 - 10:43 AMOh, I watch Bionic Woman more or less weekly...I'm just slightly embarassed to admit it. :) -
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Tue, December 11, 2007 - 8:00 PMI have hope for this series. Love the premise, so hope they can pull it off.
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Tue, December 11, 2007 - 9:35 PMActually, when she's under cover, Summer is more like a normal Teenager than River Tamm was. Yes, she goes robotic at times, but it's not a knock-off.
The principal is a little strange. It's almost like this was written before T3, though with the time travel tech, they can work almost anything. They also managed to get several travelers through for the series. So, this has a bit of the Bill and Ted's flavor of travel.
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Wed, December 12, 2007 - 12:47 PMI>>f this is well positioned, it could last 100 eps, but I doubt it will run past a season.<<
100 episodes of time travelling assassin robots?
Stupid robots. They just need to send a janky model that looks like a 90 year old woman with a box of gingerbread cookies and armed with nuke in its chest.
*And* they need to send me the Kristanna Loken model. Do you hear me robots?! I'm very dangerous to the infrastructure of Skynet! -
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Thu, January 3, 2008 - 1:28 PMI am looking forward to seeing this series....I just hope and keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't turn out to be Crap!!
I have often thought that there needed to be a series that bridged the gap between the movies and the what happens in the Future
Now it turns out that there will be a TV series and a New Trilogy of Terminator Movies that detail the Mankind's War Against the Machines set in the future too
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Thu, January 3, 2008 - 5:29 PMInteresting to know, and NOW I am thinking it will either be really good or really bad - no in between. -
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Sun, January 13, 2008 - 8:30 PMFinished watching THe Sarah Connor Chronicles and....
WOW!
Summer Glau's Cameron the good Terminator is a mystery, specifically, she's a more advanced Terminator capable of displaying emotion, among other things (There's scene with her and a tortilla chip that'll leave those who know the Terminator mythos scratching their heads).
Lena Headey's Sarah Connor is different for sure, but the way in which it is different is my point. Headey shows the audience a side of Sarah not seen since the first movie, namely her vulnerability. Fans early on argued that Sarah needs to be "buff", almost Amazonian, and Headey is not it. Well after the tonight's premiere, the naysayers can go to hell. John Connor however....Well, it's more like his actor Thomas Dekker. I don't know what to make of this John. Not quite, Nick Stahl's portrayal of John from T3, but more mature than Edward Furlong's John (obviously), Dekker acts like he doesn't know where he is going in the pilot Thus, neither does the audience. However, this is only the pilot - things do change.
Now Summer Glau - that's one thing I don't want to change. I'm a longtime Firefly fan and loved Serenity. Summer's portrayal of River Tam was one of things that hooked me when it came to Firefly 'verse. Who is she, what happened to her and why were questions that I asked regarding River and now with Cameron, John's Protector, I ask no less than the same questions. She's an advanced Terminator with no designation given so far. Did I mention this one can emote? While Terminators are just machines and thus cold and emotionless, Cameron has moments where she that she actually cares about her charges. Maybe I am reading too deep into her character or maybe its a mistake due to pilot jitters or somesuch but I like this in her Terminator. Can anyone say 'Robot Girlfriend' ?
Overall, with a first episode that had the action we expect from the Terminator franchise plus some character depth and exploration that only the medium of TV can bring through a series arc, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is off to a good start. Hopefully the show can keep up this good work.
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Sun, January 13, 2008 - 8:51 PM"PS Don't fuck this up for Fox. "
Awww, now you went and did it. Go sit in the corner and watch the first episode of season 4 of Family Guy until it sinks in and stops being funny. -
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Mon, January 14, 2008 - 7:14 PMI know...they'll fuck it up somehow
Stupid Fox Network.
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Wed, December 12, 2007 - 2:23 PMI dont find that girl from firefly very intimidating at all, even less so than the TX from T3. So they better put in some T-800s or something. -
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 3:03 PMOh, she's the "come with me if you want to live" model. They have much more intimidating people playing the bad guys.
The formula seems to be Mom, boy, terminator travel through time to fight the evil skynet before it becomes a problem. Terminator of the week gets blown up in the new "Electra Woman method" of the week with an ongoing shuffle of priorities to stopping skynet.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 10:44 PMFUCK! How many g-ddamn robots did Skynet and the TDU sent back anyway!
On a side note, this seems like it might kick ass as long as its more bearable than T3.
But what do I know, I watch "Chuck". -
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Wed, December 12, 2007 - 11:20 PMWell, actually, if you watch the changes from T1 to T2, the T1000 was sent by a different Skynet. And at the end of T2, they actually stopped that skynet from happening. The TX was sent by an entirely different net. -
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Thu, December 13, 2007 - 9:53 PMTedward, you've just hit the nail on the head regarding this franchise. -
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Fri, December 14, 2007 - 11:49 AMIt's actually a kind of neat take on time. Not many people use the Greek Fates vision of time (things are fated to be, you can only really change the players unless you do considerable damage to the tapestry of life). Besides, it's an incredibly durable plot device... :) -
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Fri, December 14, 2007 - 10:44 PM{sitting in a corner chanting "there's no fate but what we make, there's no fate but what we make."}
^_^
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Sun, December 30, 2007 - 10:37 PMI am not so sure about it. Really seems like the formula that goes "interesting idea = flop for a tv show" keeps coming up lately. It could surprise us all and be more than we even hoped for... so who knows really.
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Mon, January 14, 2008 - 10:07 PMOkay, so episode two just finished and I'm starting to warm up to this. They're giving it the breadth and scope needed to make it a good chiller. -
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Wed, February 6, 2008 - 3:26 PMI am really enjoying the show so far. They are hitting just the right notes with character and situation that are consistent with the first two movies, yet leave enough room to do what they want. Since time travel is a major part of the premise, they could, if they wished, even ignore the third film (which I hope they do) by simply saying that the timeline has been altered. And the fact that Sarah and her son are basically domestic Luddite terrorists makes the show very modern and relevant.
Fun stuff, and it beats the crap out of the Bionic Woman series, which I gave up on. I weep for Jamie Sommers! (See, if they had just introduced Max the Bionic dog right away, the new show might have worked.) -
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Wed, February 6, 2008 - 6:53 PMI like the show and believe that The Terminator Product is going to last to a 4th film phase.
The show will succeed on all its time fractual points - always creating more and more sub-plots (between two points there is always more room for more points - space is infinite - storyline - many)
but just like we learn in T3 - you can not alter the outcome of time/destiny - things will happen like they are supposed and our world will end - the only thing we can do is prolong it and work from there
I "totally" recall a line from the Matrix Series that can apply here:
"It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were, by design, based on a similar predication: a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-à-vis: love."
Just how many times will John Conner send his father back in time to impregnate his mother - to insure her life and his birth. And when will he realize it is all for nil and figure out another whay to save the day
T4 will be a film that takes place after the bunker and the rebuilding phase and the creation and point where we try send people back to the beginning - I see some great stuff in my cinematic crystal ball
this show is like Terminator 2.123456789
Terminator Series was is the modern classic for time travel and the discourse about altering the future thru manipulating things - before Quantum Leap, Journeyman, LOST, Matrix (kind of) and a whole lot of other pop culture stuff . . .
it got the ball rolling for robots, cyborgs, A.I., conspiracy, and alot of circular time theory as well
T2 also was one of the first films to put to use the CGI effects stuff
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Thu, February 7, 2008 - 2:16 AMActually , I rather enjoy the time theorems of the Terminator saga. The unfortunate problem with time travel is that Back to the Future explained it clear enough for most people to understand, but it's theory was a blend of two different philosophies.
Crystal glass - any change in a timeline will cause time to shatter. One little change irrevocably unties all following events.
Time Stream - Time flows like a river. Drop all the pebbles you want into it and it keeps flowing. Kill Hitler, and Gimler finds another patsy with charisma to lead the third reich. You have to drop REALLY big rocks into a stream to divert it noticably.
Terminator is a brilliant example of the Time Stream theory. To answer a previous question, John will only ever send his father back in time once. Once done, that timeline got erased and the stream returned on course with a new date for judgement day. You'll notice that the treatment of time travel is different now.
T1 - One terminator sent, one man sent, time facility is destroyed.
T2 - two terminators sent, time facility also destroyed?
TS - Humans control a facility: engineers and other troupes sent back. Apparently a conflicting facility is in control of the machines too. Either that, or there is a finite number of machines before the renegades took control of the single facility. -
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Thu, February 7, 2008 - 7:21 AMWhat I'm looking forward to is the backstory on Cameron, John's newest protector. -
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Re: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Thu, February 7, 2008 - 12:54 PMWikipedia answered my question:
"Josh Friedman, producer of the 2008 Fox Broadcasting television series Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, which takes place after Terminator 2: Judgment Day, stated in an interview that the events of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines occur in an alternate timeline from that of the TV series."
Sweet!
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