Tribe.net. Local Connections Powers http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/e659a449-cb18-472b-a483-7b25ffa68c2b#03a92899-0d67-4f1c-96d8-5a74dca93ea9 2008-11-21T17:39:53Z 2008-11-21T17:39:53Z

CyberJazz PunkJazz JazzPunk run with it . . . then send me a link to upload - or jack in

Powers 2008-11-21T17:39:53Z David M. http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/e659a449-cb18-472b-a483-7b25ffa68c2b#19e2f57e-bf70-4a48-92df-13b51385430a 2008-11-21T12:45:00Z 2008-11-21T12:45:00Z

Man, you guys are getting me all amped up with this talk of music. Jazz and punk...I like the way you guys think!!!

David M. 2008-11-21T12:45:00Z Allen http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/e659a449-cb18-472b-a483-7b25ffa68c2b#44c64b21-8c38-4ac0-beef-138048019223 2008-11-21T01:55:54Z 2008-11-21T01:55:54Z

I think that sci-fi is very much evolving. Cyberpunk was, I think, a very logical step in the development of sci-fi, since as our own world became ever closer to being the stuff of science fiction, cyberpunk looked into a future that was in many ways very close to the world in which we lived; the classic "20 minutes into the future" scenario. Think about the fact that when Second Life was founded, their goal was to recreate the virtual world in "Snow Crash." When sci-fi becomes reality, it means that writers have to become that much more inventive, and the genre evolves. Classic cyberpunk may be a near-dead genre (though Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex has been doing its best to keep the genre alive), but think about how punk rock changed music. I was a big fan of post-punk music, myself.

Allen 2008-11-21T01:55:54Z Powers http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/e659a449-cb18-472b-a483-7b25ffa68c2b#92c9db47-23be-4143-a71a-756cb95219a2 2008-11-20T17:43:20Z 2008-11-20T17:43:20Z

Sure Flour was discovered or developed but there is only flour with all of its many uses you can even put a fire out with the right amount flour Jazz was developed stemmed from - I know the arguments (I think) but could argue that the last real music art form created - original and all borrowing only a smiggen from any thing else could be Jazz enough with that I was just wondering what comes next - we've seen innerspace, the modern sprawl, known space, the stars and their gates to . . . heaven and hell we've built golems, ditts, brass men, reptiles that give birth to their own weapons we've made love to cars, injected ourselves with super juice and fought bugs big and small just wondering where we go from here like flour, cyberpunk is original - the first made right here in our world - born and breed of our reality like Jazz - everything I know today is because of Jazz - the way books are written, the way songs are written, maybe in the way new politics is here is because of Jazz you can't get away from Jazz nor flour and now you can't get away from CyberPunk I know what's next Nu-Acid CyberPunk or CyberYuppie, CyberHippie, CyberBeat, CyberNix, CyberCon, CyberMods

Powers 2008-11-20T17:43:20Z David M. http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/e659a449-cb18-472b-a483-7b25ffa68c2b#5f86bb59-ddea-4371-b0dc-f2ba25a73e0c 2008-11-20T12:52:30Z 2008-11-20T12:52:30Z

What comes next in the world of sci-fi or what comes next in the world of cyber-punk? With regards to the second part of your question: Any music theorist who says the end is near is a quack. Jazz alone has seen at least 6 MAJOR trends (off the top of my head), like origin, swing, dixie revival, bop, cool, free, fusion.....(oops, that's already 7), modern classical has found functional & mainstream use of the "non-listenable but highly compelling" works of composers like Cage & Xenakis, and electronica has spawned more sub-genres than you can shake a pointed stick at. Similarly, sci-fi has been trekking along since before it had the label "sci-fi" and cyber-punk has been around (look at those old distopian in a technological world novels like "Frankenstein") since long before the term was used in the 1980s. But of course, I suppose it comes down to which aspect of cyber-punk one finds most compelling. Is it the fiction? The fashion? The music? Something else entirely?

David M. 2008-11-20T12:52:30Z Powers http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/e659a449-cb18-472b-a483-7b25ffa68c2b#8d021e26-54b5-45f4-8775-eb782ddd37b1 2008-11-19T20:05:47Z 2008-11-19T20:05:47Z

What comes next? Of course PostCyberPunk - or MetaCP - whichever Where do we go from here? What are some of our favorite PostCP works and can this sub-genre work the same way reg-CP does by using different characters types to different means? Part two to this question: You know how some music theorist state that the last few music movements like jazz, hiphop and 'electronica-techno' are the last? Is CyberPunk and its sister sub-genre (Post)the last Sci-fi movement. What else is there to do? Will CyberP be woven into the future fabric of sci-fi even if it is other-worldly sci-fi or is cyberp proper only unique to our world.

Powers 2008-11-19T20:05:47Z