Tribe.net. Local Connections Allen http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#a54657a9-1bc2-4074-accb-d2024d7017b1 2009-06-14T06:58:18Z 2009-06-14T06:58:18Z

Thanks, Bright -- nice link. Intriguing, but too short, IMHO. Bet you could write a better one! Somebody must have written a meaty thesis on this thing that's online somewhere. Post here if you come across one.

Allen 2009-06-14T06:58:18Z Allen http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#3c3f6854-8404-4dc0-a2f5-a554c96f3541 2009-06-14T06:52:50Z 2009-06-14T06:52:50Z

"Diamond Age" is steampunk? WTF?! You're mixing your genres. Just because it has Neo-Victorians doesn't make it in any way steampunk, which is marked by anachronistic technology occurring in prior historical ages. Steampunk is basically alternate history. I accept your premise that DA isn't cyberpunk, but that doesn't, by default, make it steampunk! You almost couldn't even bring yourself to type it! ^_^ Wikipedia lists it as postcyberpunk, which only makes me wish to eject another "WTF?!" I'd say that sci-fi dealing with nanotechnology is almost a separate subgenre. DA does have some cyberpunky elements in it, but I feel that classic cyberpunk is essentially a 15-minutes-into-the-future genre (give or take a few decades!), and DA is much further ahead than that. Again, like you suggest, not cyberpunk. Still one of my favorite books, ever, even though it lacks a coherent ending. (Narratively, I find "Cryptonomicon" to be Stephenson's masterpiece, though idea-wise, DA is my favorite.) "Daemon" has great buzz on Amazon. Thanks for the recommendation. I need to sink my teeth into some good, hard sci-fi. I just finished "Tarzan of the Apes," the Edgar Rice Burroughs classic, and not only it was pulpy (which I love) but was thick with roiling layers of colonialism, racism, and proto-eugenics that I can't even begin to describe. I need some brutal dytopian tech-porn to snap me back.

Allen 2009-06-14T06:52:50Z Bright N Shiny http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#e28050b0-c439-4d68-8506-a558c48a4a2f 2009-06-14T04:43:31Z 2009-06-14T04:43:31Z

This is super cool. Its a study guide for Neuromancer Written by Paul Brians, an English instructor at Washington State at Pullman. Wish he'd do Count Zero and Mona Lisa. Guess I'll do them myself. http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/science_fiction/neuromancer.html

Bright N Shiny 2009-06-14T04:43:31Z Bright N Shiny http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#9dd7c29d-d797-450c-83be-b8bee1b2c920 2009-06-13T06:52:46Z 2009-06-13T06:52:46Z

Just finished "Daemon" by Daniel Suarez . Best thing I've found in a long, long time. Present day hard gaming tech. I'm picky and this is a winner. For me I don't even associate "Snowcrash" with "Diamond Age". "Snowcrash" is brilliant. Just finished it for about the fourth time. "Diamond Age" is... well... steam punk.

Bright N Shiny 2009-06-13T06:52:46Z Mickey http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#246dbe36-1d7a-42af-819e-1e11298e965d 2009-05-04T02:36:53Z 2009-05-04T02:36:53Z

What did you just call me?

Mickey 2009-05-04T02:36:53Z Powers http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#bddddb3e-5478-4b24-a44f-ce0f7faa8f65 2009-05-01T17:38:27Z 2009-05-01T17:38:27Z

Brassman

Powers 2009-05-01T17:38:27Z Alicia http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#57e6243e-faab-40cc-8cb5-ef26a91249a8 2009-04-19T20:21:47Z 2009-04-19T20:21:47Z

Katharine Kerr - Polar City Blues and Polar City Nightmare.

Alicia 2009-04-19T20:21:47Z Rich http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#ce597955-46b5-4a33-92aa-b418cbb366f9 2009-04-19T17:23:11Z 2009-04-19T17:23:11Z

Blade Runner dude aka Do Robots Dream of Electric Sheep?

Rich 2009-04-19T17:23:11Z David M. http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#ddcfde14-dec6-49f9-ad68-35a42dcf7f24 2008-11-22T13:58:41Z 2008-11-22T13:58:41Z

Anything by William Gibson. "Snow Crash" & "Diamond Age" (though some don't consider them cyber-punk) also come immediately to mind. I also like PK Dick & Harlen Ellison, though again, many don;t consider them cyber-punk proper.

David M. 2008-11-22T13:58:41Z Achbar http://cyberpunk.tribe.net/thread/f7d90eba-d727-48cc-a7d5-08a87bb10ee5#7c420788-3c7e-4383-8b06-36a246730b7f 2008-11-22T13:19:18Z 2008-11-22T13:19:18Z

What Cyberpunk Novels have you read ane enjoyed?

Achbar 2008-11-22T13:19:18Z